Transport Safety Victoria kayak forum - outcomes?

[Rhino]

With all this talk of registrations and licenses and regulations of how far from shore you can go we may as well pile up our yaks and have a massive bonnie and get blind drunk cause from what I'm hearing on here we are in a floating death trap and are destined to die (whether we have a flag or not).

FFS I bought a yak to avoid all the crap of registrations and stuff that comes with owning a boat. If I've then gotta do it anyway with my yak because a handful of dicks have no common sense then my yak will be up for sale very quickly.

Assuming you are still allowed to sell a yak privately or will you have to be licensed and registered to do that as well?

Relax Chris, nobody here makes the rules.

TSV want to keep it simple. There are no new regulations coming. If they are to initiate a registration or licensing program it would be free on a voluntary basis with an incentive to participate.

[Hvalross]

With all this talk of registrations and licenses and regulations of how far from shore you can go we may as well pile up our yaks and have a massive bonnie and get blind drunk cause from what I'm hearing on here we are in a floating death trap and are destined to die (whether we have a flag or not).

FFS I bought a yak to avoid all the crap of registrations and stuff that comes with owning a boat. If I've then gotta do it anyway with my yak because a handful of dicks have no common sense then my yak will be up for sale very quickly.

Assuming you are still allowed to sell a yak privately or will you have to be licensed and registered to do that as well?

Relax Chris, nobody here makes the rules.

TSV want to keep it simple. There are no new regulations coming. If they are to initiate a registration or licensing program it would be free on a voluntary basis with an incentive to participate.

In other words: sitting on their hands, its the bike car thing all over again........

[Rhino]

Tough gig huh?

Do nothing.........get slammed

Make rules.........get slammed.

[Hvalross]

Tough gig huh?

Do nothing.........get slammed

Make rules.........get slammed.

No not really Rhino, its about balance......Fact as more and more people get out and about so there are more folks in each segment from responsible to bloody stupid......as there are more people in each segment so the impact grows as the impact grows , so more folks are effected, so there becomes a need to regulate......in this day and age that means enforcement because the age of responsibility is long gone....eg. as late as the 70's a person could leave a house or a car unlocked in the CBD.....a person could walk through Melbourne alone early before daylight.....not today.

So it is that yakking is growing.....Chris may well have got into the sport to avoid red tape associated with boats.....but that freedom lets in idiots and mongrels too. What about the safety of the folks that have to rescue the clowns, what about the costs associted with these losses.

An ounce of prevention is worth a hundredweight of cure.

I dont want regulation either, but I sure as hell dont want to be faced with having to assist a clown drifting in the Bay.

Like you I could not ignore even a Clown..........I'd rather they were kept out by some measure of accountability, even if that was a hefty penalty.

[JägerMarty]

Thanks for the updates fellas.
I'm all for on water checks, have never seen or heard of checks on the bay. Start fining the flogs and enforcing existing laws.

I've been checked twice in 4 years yakkin, once on Eildon and once on Jindabyne

[Smish]

Thanks for the updates fellas.
I'm all for on water checks, have never seen or heard of checks on the bay. Start fining the flogs and enforcing existing laws.

I've been checked twice in 4 years yakkin, once on Eildon and once on Jindabyne

When I was paddling the blimp fishing several kilometres from shore whenever the water police came past they always stopped to check things out. The first question was always, "where's the motor?" and I would point to my arms... then they would proceed to check all my gear, fishing license, catch... etc, so I've always liked to think they were on the ball... or else I just looked sus'.

[maverick]

I think was just a wtf moment for them.

[4liters]

Tough gig huh?

Do nothing.........get slammed

Make rules.........get slammed.

No not really Rhino, its about balance......Fact as more and more people get out and about so there are more folks in each segment from responsible to bloody stupid......as there are more people in each segment so the impact grows as the impact grows , so more folks are effected, so there becomes a need to regulate......in this day and age that means enforcement because the age of responsibility is long gone....eg. as late as the 70's a person could leave a house or a car unlocked in the CBD.....a person could walk through Melbourne alone early before daylight.....not today.

So it is that yakking is growing.....Chris may well have got into the sport to avoid red tape associated with boats.....but that freedom lets in idiots and mongrels too. What about the safety of the folks that have to rescue the clowns, what about the costs associted with these losses.

An ounce of prevention is worth a hundredweight of cure.

I dont want regulation either, but I sure as hell dont want to be faced with having to assist a clown drifting in the Bay.

Like you I could not ignore even a Clown..........I'd rather they were kept out by some measure of accountability, even if that was a hefty penalty.

The balance seems more or less right though. With the only deaths due to people using powered kayaks improperly it doesn't seem like there is a whole lot left to be done from a regulation point of view aside from better enforcement of the existing rules (which work really well at preventing accidents and saving lives when followed).